The house, built in 1840, has been home to a cross-section of British society, warts and all. David Adetayo Olusoga OBE (born January 1970 [1]) is a British historian, writer, broadcaster, presenter and film-maker. All the best to you both! He was proud of being a black Nigerian of Yoruba heritage and was perfectly happy being part of his mothers white working-class geordie tradition. For Olusoga, 51, this hostility can in part be explained by ignorance. Yet apologists for empire, in particular, like to dismiss him as a woke historian in an attempt to politicise his work or flatly deny the realities that he points out. She must have known that, sooner or later, the condition would kill her. It short-circuits an idea of British exceptionalism. More information about PBS is available at www.pbs.org, one of the leading dot-org websites on the internet, or by following PBS on Twitter, Facebook or through our apps for mobile and connected devices. Presenter David branded Anne "courageous and a pioneer of the divorce courts". Across the four episodes of A House Through Time we uncover their stories, and that of the city in which they lived. As for black peoples experiences in Britain, he says, there is a hysterical level of anger if you point out that many have lived in some form of slavery or unfreedom. I found so many very short lists or stories about one person and I would like to make a much, much bigger list. A generation has emerged that doesnt need history to perform that role of comfort that its parents and grandparents did, he says. Some treatments include: Radioactive iodine therapy With this therapy, you take radioactive iodine (radioiodine) by mouth. It brings slavery to Britain and therefore undermines the idea that it doesnt really matter because it happened over there, says Olusoga. He was dyslexic, but the school refused to get him tested until he did his GCSEs: It was the easier story to believe that this kid was stupid because all black kids are stupid. When he finally got his diagnosis and support thanks in large part to his mothers fierce determination Olusoga went to study history at the University of Liverpool, followed by a masters degree at Leicester. Episode Two:Medical Drugs focuses on the more recent medical inventions that combat illness directly, particularly antibiotics, and the development of antiviral drugs for HIV. In southern Kenya, white soldiers lie beneath named memorials in a well-tended cemetery. He was 14. Episode Three:Data looks at how the emergence of fact-based research, data mapping and analysis has improved public health. I owe her hugely. Despite having a difficult time in school Olusoga was diagnosed with dyslexia at age 14 there he developed a love of history from a favorite teacher and the television he watched. Recent projects include A World of Calm, based on the meditation and sleep app from the billion-dollar tech company Calm, Babies, exploring the key developmental years in life, and Emmy Award-nominated The World According to Jeff Goldblum. Nutopia also produced, the much-honored National Geographic series One Strange Rock; the BBC/PBS co-production Civilizations; interactive series The Great American Read; and Emmy Award-winning series How We Got to Now and America: The Story of the US. Upcoming projects include Limitless, with Chris Hemsworth, and Welcome to the Earth (working title) with Will Smith for Disney+, and Extra Life: A Short History of Living Longer for PBS. Surprisingly, though Alfred did not contest Anne's claims, the divorce did not go ahead and the proceedings were discontinued. A freeze frame would probably show all the info from a download of the programme. The other outrage is that the Commonwealth War Graves commission knew about this for years . Could explain a lot! His exposure to Nigerian culture seems quite limited. There are hundreds like it in Liverpool and many thousands more across the country. 6:05 to see if there are people out there with a history of eating disorders and thyroid problems? Im also black British and that had no history, no recognition. He says that some of the aggression shown towards black historians who write honestly about Britains past comes from people who think this history is important because it gives black people the right to be here. Sorry I thought I had checked first hey ho the joys of thyroid. Historian Prof David Olusoga, whose TV company produced Unremembered, told BBC Breakfast that apologies were not enough and resources would need to be committed if the commission was serious about restorative justice. We all know that until the 20th century billions died of diseases for which cures now exist. Olusoga was confident about having two identities, despite the prejudice he had encountered. Bill Gardner is the Executive in Charge for PBS.Funding for EXTRA LIFE: A SHORT HISTORY OF LIVING LONGER is provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations, the New Venture Fund and PBS. It is not meant to be anything more you can go off and find much more information about the people elsewhere. Video, 00:01:14Trumpeter heads to rooftop to remember dead, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Ive recently found myself grateful for this omission because of all the historical projects I have worked on, none has made it so easy to cross lines, or so tempting to overstep marks. First published in 2016, and made into a TV series the same year, the book charts black British history from the first meeting between the people of Britain and the people of Africa during the Roman period, to the racism Olusoga encountered during his own childhood, via Britain's role in the slave trade and the scramble for Africa.It is a story that some of Olusoga's critics would prefer . Video, 00:01:00View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. To pass judgment on anyone living or dead on the basis of a handful of letters and ledger entries is palpably unfair and arguably ridiculous, and yet, in this case, almost impossible to resist. David Olusoga Retweeted UplandsTV. Historians love to talk about how we can get closer to the people of the past, but when it happens of its own volition the effects can be unnerving. No list from which practitioners of the art can be struck off for professional misconduct. While the series features many leading public health authorities and scientists on the front lines of the current pandemic, EXTRA LIFE examines the bigger picture and sparks a global conversation about how weve learned to save lives. David Olusoga: "It's another organisation that's had to be dragged into admitting its history.". Thousands of people who had lived legally in the UK for decades, often people who had arrived from the Caribbean as children, were suddenly targeted for deportation. The report found that at least 116,000 casualties from WW1, most of whom were of African, Indian or Egyptian origin, "were not commemorated by name or possibly not commemorated at all". Outside Europe, however, the commission enacted a policy of extreme discrimination, categorising the fallen as "white", "Indians" or what it called "natives". But there is a deeper issue at play. The report picked out an example from 1923 when the governor of the Gold Coast colony, now Ghana, argued for collective memorials rather than individual ones. Both survived and that side of the family had the good genes so were lucky. Graves would be a most dreadful way to die and I often shudder to think of the millions who died from thyroid disorders before any treatment was available. History is about people. Video, 00:00:42Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. TSH110 It sounds as if you've had a really rough ride. I struggle to think of a better phrase to describe this place. Historian Prof David Olusoga, whose TV company produced Unremembered, told BBC Breakfast that apologies were not enough and resources would need to be committed if the commission was serious. He gives another example: I have been accused literally hundreds of times of ignoring the slavery suppression squadron that the Royal Navy created after 1807. Its task was to suppress the Atlantic slave trade by patrolling the coast of west Africa. Unless of course with the many forms of hypothyroidism, some just do not sap your energy to that degree. It was presented as impossible a dualism that couldnt exist, because whiteness and Britishness were the same thing when I was growing up. Watch for yourself. The rises and falls, the shifts in the fortunes of neighbourhoods and whole cities are here, tracing the often surprising journey one single house can take from an elegant dwelling in a fashionable . David Olusoga is a British Nigerian historian, broadcaster and writer. Video, 00:01:14Trumpeter heads to rooftop to remember dead, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. In 2020, protesters in more than 260 British towns and cities took part in BLM protests, thought to be the most widespread anti-racist movement since the abolition of the slave trade. The idea of equal treatment was controversial, but it became a cornerstone of remembrance. Thyroid hormones affect many body systems, so signs and symptoms of Graves' disease can be wide ranging. Video, 00:00:36Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. The violence culminated in a brick being thrown into the familys home, wrapped in a note demanding they be sent back. Studying the past of one terraced Liverpool home for BBC2's A House Through Time has brought Britain's real history to life Historian David Olusoga, presenter of A House Through Time, outside. I have had an under active thyroid for 25yrs, I take 150mg thyroxine daily. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Best-selling author Steven Johnson (The Ghost Map, HOW WE GOT TO NOW) and historian and broadcaster David Olusoga (CIVILIZATIONS, "Black & British: A Forgotten History") combine expertise to . Video, 00:01:20WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. Esther sadly died of Graves' disease aged just 44 and her former husband Edward left Liverpool for Denmark. A few days after reading the 1880s death certificate of Esther Lublin I found myself alone in my office, on the top floor of my house, reading old diaries, remembering how painful it had been. His scholarship has been widely recognised: in 2019, he was awarded an OBE and made a professor at the University of Manchester. PBSs broad array of programs has been consistently honored by the industrys most coveted award competitions. History doesnt exist to make us feel good, special, exceptional or magical. He was 14. I enjoyed the first episode. Sewnsew the bit on Graves was very short so I dont want to build up your expectations. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. A close encounter between historian and subject. Video, 00:01:51Lockdown hits nephew's 11,000-mile war grave trip, I look after the grave of a soldier Ive never met Video, 00:01:57I look after the grave of a soldier Ive never met, Trumpeter heads to rooftop to remember dead. So he calls himself a Geordie. ll old houses are haunted. My history is part of your history.. I have been surprised at my capacity to feel sympathy and empathy for people I only know from patchy evidence. I lived, she died because we were born in different centuries. Mr Lammy added that work must be done to find their names in archives where that is possible, and to establish how local communities would like them to be commemorated. . I'm hypo now but it was a grim time before my Graves was diagnosed so I really feel for the lady. Read about our approach to external linking. (He is also on the board of the Scott Trust, which owns Guardian Media Group.) Suitable for Key Stage 3, Key Stage 4, GCSE . It likely sparked fear for the wealthy residents of the impressive Georgian terraced house, as they knew they were not protected from the horrors of contagious disease and the boom and bust years of business. I suspect I have forgotten dozens of people who I know should be included, let alone the untold number I do not know about. The practice evolved out of the 19th century science of epidemiology and cholera mortality reports in the 1840s, where the now ubiquitous curve of an epidemicwas first documented. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. The report said Mr Browne's response showed "what he may have considered foresight, but one that was explicitly framed by contemporary racial prejudice". Some troops were commemorated collectively or their names were recorded in registers, while their white counterparts had headstones. Olusoga recalls his family being driven out of his childhood home by the National Front (no plaque) The visit of Kings Khama III, Sebele I and Bathoen I to England in 1895, leading to the foundation of Botswana (at the Botswanan Embassy in London) Charles Wotten, a victim of the 1919 Liverpool Race Riots (at Queen's Dock, Port of Liverpool) ", David Matthews tells the story of his great-uncle who fought in World War One. . This is a simple list of well-known people who suffer (or have suffered) from thyroid disorders. Ive looked at this history because its just exciting to be part of a long story. The thought usually comes late at night or early in the morning, when our eye is caught by what estate agents like to call an original feature, or a patch of peeling wallpaper or flaking paint reveals what lies beneath. Because to live in an old house is to share your most intimate space with the dead. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Copyright 2023 Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), ", War Graves Commission 'dragged into admitting its history' Video, 00:01:59War Graves Commission 'dragged into admitting its history', Up Next. For her there were few options. neurological problems. The lives of all of the people whose stories make up the links in that chain run through the house, because, for each of them, walking through that front door meant that they were home. Between 45,000 and 54,000 Asian and African personnel who died in the conflict were "commemorated unequally", the commission said. Too close and a little too real for comfort. Im a woolyback originally but my scouse accent has dissipated away as I left Birkenhead when I was 18 - no work. The issue will also feature data visualizations and articles by historians and other science writers. The fact that we have doubled life expectancy may well be the single most important development in modern history., "The revolution in medicine and public health that has taken place over the past three centuries is one of the greatest achievements of all time, said Olusoga. Labour MP David Lammy, who was critical to bringing the matter to light, called it a "watershed moment". And I felt quite misunderstood by my then GP and work colleagues. David Olusoga on Commonwealth War Graves Commission apology. Historian Prof David Olusoga, whose TV company produced Unremembered, told BBC Breakfast that apologies were not enough and resources would need to be committed if the commission was serious about . I have been equally surprised at my capacity to feel sympathy and empathy for the sufferings of people whom I only know from patchy documentary evidence. Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Or having just walked up a staircase, holding the wooden banister that their hands once gripped. Melissa Porter ( hypothyroidism) claims that it was her illness that helped her to get the job of her dreams!!! Each episode will explore one aspect of public health that has played a central role in our battle to live longer. I still suffer with awful anxiety and heart pains but feel hugely better. He said it was a travesty that men who served the British Empire were not commemorated properly, but welcomed the report. he said. Video, 00:00:36Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Now more than ever, we need powerful storytelling that captures and explains the achievements in public health and medicine over the past few centuries, said Johnson. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. I dont feel challenged in my right to be proud to be British a statue of Edward Colston in Bristol is toppled during Black Lives Matter protests in 2020. "Our shared duty is to honour and remember all those, wherever they lived and whatever their background, who laid down their lives for our freedoms at the moment of greatest peril," he said. 2023 BBC. DO was greatly moved especially as he said he has suffered with Graves disease for 4 years and could relate to some of her pain. Who is David Olusoga? And I will be ruthless in fighting for them.. Elizabeth placed adverts in the local paper to rent out rooms in her home as she had no other means of earning money. I started off with Graves. First published in 2016, and made into a TV series the same year, the book charts black British history from the first meeting between the people of Britain and the people of Africa during the Roman period, to the racism Olusoga encountered during his own childhood, via Britains role in the slave trade and the scramble for Africa. EXTRA LIFE: A SHORT HISTORY OF LIVING LONGER is a production of Nutopia for PBS. Did anyone read the symptoms on the death certificate? David, who returns to our screens in the BBC series A House Through . Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. DKC Public Relations:extralifeDKC@dkcnews.com, Duncan Singh, Helen Sage, Tristan Quinn, David Alvarado and Jason Sussberg. istorys purpose isnt to comfort us, says. Six million soldiers from the British Empire served in WW1. mstp he had the actual death certificate and read from it the lady died of a heart attack as a complication of Graves disease and I remember seeing Graves written on it in perfect copperplate handwriting . Ill give it another try, thanks for posting! I had both hypo and hyper symptoms and it was truly grim before I finally got a diagnosis having the final dump of thyroxine and going completely bonkers and then being plunged into eternal hypo - the cold was indescribably awful and I felt so bad death would have been a merciful release but I got treatment in the nick of time and pulled through. The UK and US based company is credited with creating the television genre known as the mega-doc, combining epic, motion picture-quality cinematography, action-driven content and prominent Hollywood actors to produce and star in the projects. I am having a a bit of a down after 3 years feeling really well on NDT not sure why I seem to be having a blip. If you were taught a history that the first black person to put his foot on English soil was stepping off the Windrush in 1948, then this can seem like a conspiracy, he says. You can also get in touch in the following ways: If you are reading this page and can't see the form you will need to visit the mobile version of the BBC website to submit your question or comment or you can email us at HaveYourSay@bbc.co.uk. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission apologised after it found "pervasive racism" led to predominantly black and Asian service personnel not being formally remembered in the same way as white troops. A woman who seemed to have it all was forced to rent out her home after her husband died from cholera. He is asked, for instance, why he doesnt speak about the Barbary slave trade of the 16th to 18th centuries, in which Europeans were captured and traded by north African pirates. It was a gruesome experience but I appreciate how lucky I am to be living in modern times cheating my true destiny with medication and getting some pretty good extra years - a real bonus! Historian David Olusoga follows the residents in the house in Liverpool from the 1850s to the 1890s to illuminate changes in history as revealed by their lives. Teachers of children from pre-K through 12th grade turn to PBS for digital content and services that help bring classroom lessons to life. Picture is last one of Abraham Lincoln while alive. They span the social spectrum, from the well-to-do Victorian gentlemen to the families who huddled together in single rooms during the decades after the second world war when the house degenerated into a tenement slum. disease, mass transportation, crime and class. Yet over the months my disdain for this ghost from the archives has grown, despite my attempts at professional detachment. Funny to think of the house not being in town as it's right in the centre. It is at home, with our partners, parents and children, that we are genuinely ourselves. Everyone moans about the NHS but so many diseases are now gone not only because of modern medicine but hygiene clean water etc and drainage. David Olusoga: As a child I never presumed the racism I experienced would ever stop We asked the historian and presenter, 50, what his younger self would make of his life, and how his. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. The tragedy happened behind the doors of 62 Falkner Street, Get the best property news and bargains with our House&Home newsletter. But knowing the historical facts and the bleak statistics is very different to reading of Esther Lublins tragic life, our shared diagnosis, her name and age younger than I am now scrawled on to her death certificate by a busy doctor. After John's sudden death, Elizabeth was left alone on Falkner Street. Not by ghosts but by the lives of others. The company, which was founded in 2008 by Jane Root, former President of Discovery Channel US and Controller of BBC2, and co-founder of Wall to Wall TV, has become synonymous with creating high-quality, notable content for buyers that include Netflix, Disney+, CNN, National Geographic, BBC, PBS, HBO Max and A+E Networks. I write Georgian-style because it was built in 1840, the third year of Victorias reign. So many and as Carolyn said, a lot of politicians , particuarily. This is a man I know only from a cache of damning official documents and incredibly a surviving portrait in oil paint. Knowledge of how to produce safe, effective drugs and distribute them quickly around the globe now underpins work to find treatments for COVID-19. To talk about the past residents of the house, to make judgments about them, to sum up their achievements or discuss their failings, from the upstairs sitting room in which they showed off their wealth and entertained their guests one and a half centuries earlier, felt a little presumptuous and almost transgressive. Luckily they did manage to get it under control but she clearly continued to suffer with the consequences both emotional and physical. The consequence of the commission's failings is not only to do a great injustice to the black and Asian soldiers, sailors and airmen who fought alongside their white European comrades in two world wars, it is to misrepresent our history. A few days after reading the 1880s death certificate of Esther Lublin I found myself alone in my office, on the top floor of my house, reading old diaries, remembering how painful it had been. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Read about our approach to external linking. Im really sorry that the stuff I do and that other people do is a challenge to that, but my job is to be a historian. An updated edition of Black and British: A Forgotten History, with a new chapter, is published on 10 June (Picador, 12.99). Very moving and somehow making me feel not so alone with my thyroid condition. To view profiles and participate in discussions please. This adds to the evidence that thousands of black people were brought to Britain, enslaved as well as free. 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