The kingdom archive. I know what I'll do, I'm going to set up a terrarium for them and I'm going to make it hot, really uncomfortably hot. I mean, when you look at the records, you don't see huge spikes in mortality. She was totally an oops kid. Its gonna get messy. Visit our website. [expletive] That was awesome. JAD: Do you have any theories for how this tongue is tickling the DNA, or whatever it's doing? It's such a surprising result. Well, yep, that is so true. OLOV BYGREN: It's a small forest area, very beautiful. So, somehow, by some chemical mechanism, starving grandpa, back when he was about 9 to 12 years old, turned out to be a good thing. She should be with me. DESTINY HARRIS: Kick it to him. PAT'S MOM: Radiolab is produced by Jad Abumrad. And I packed up my stuff, it's pretty much done. A couple of days later, I had already bonded with her so much, it was as if I gave birth to her. I don't like to upset people. And I know fate is gonna give them a couple random mutations in those genes. Not only that. Part 2 of our collaboration with Radiolab. Suddenly you're marked. With a child, they give you a whole folder full of information, tells you all about them. JAD: But that you supposedly can't get to. I had a little basketball for her. I mean, they didn't have porridge. In just two generations, these toads seem to have done something that should have taken, I don't know, 50, 100 generations? Yeah, it drifts into something like a shopping channel. Well, yep, that is so true. [laughs] Can you say, "Never, ever?" She and I snuck away from the children into her office. To learn more about higher level giving opportunities please contact the Development Office at giving@nypublicradio.org or (646) 829-4130. Also, thanks to Carl Zimmer whose latest is. So, the thought is, when those little boys in verkalix were really, really hungry, their hunger started a chemical process that reached all the way down to the DNA inside the boy's sperm. ROBERT: What do you mean? Covid has disrupted the most basic routines of our days and nights. Because there is more data, more information about the people of verkalix, going farther back into the past than you can find almost anywhere else on Earth. Are you nine? Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. It's off-limits. Were less prone to diabetes. She filled out the forms went BARBARA HARRIS: Through all the training that we had to do and first aid, fingerprinted and had a background check done. Push yourself and you got it.". So, in the end, where do you come down on this? PEJK MALINOVSKI: Here we have how much they harvested. PAT: And even though they look basically nothing alike. You know, when smart people say, you know, "There's no such thing as nature and nurture it's only interaction of the two," You're like, "What the hell does that mean?" The women who I've worked with, who've had a history of drug problems, aren't like the examples that she gives. How was this woman allowed", BARBARA HARRIS: "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". CARL ZIMMER: And in1923, he actually comes to England. SECTION I - Story 1 (Lamark, Krammerer & the Midwife Toads) 1. And he would basically turn the heat way, way up in these aquariums until they had to go underwater. As a parent, you are a tiny blip in a very, very, long story. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. And she says oftentimes the women who want help have a really hard time finding it. I know! Environmental Biology Radiolab - Inheritance Due to Haiku by Monday March 3rd Name: Dmitry Matveev Date: Or is it? Or is it? Like Id be like, Weve got the keys, were gonna trash the house., LATIF: Anyway, we think about that all the time and I was just talking to Lulu about that and she was just like, You know, theres a radiolab about this.. JAD: Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? More brain cells? BARBARA HARRIS: I already knew that if I ever got a little girl, I was going to name her Destiny. And, I mean, I have straight A's and I'm making it work. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I feel that they should all be sterilized. Isaiah would sleep and he would scream. ROBERT: Well, that's the good news, but unfortunately there is some bad news here. Like have you ever had one of those moments where you suddenly are your dad and it catches you off guard? JAD: And what about the four kids that weren't raised with Barbara? So we're going to leave you with a story from our producer, Pat Walters, about one woman's radical A few months ago, Pat made his way down in North Carolina, to a small suburb outside of Charlotte to visit this family. You know, like if you're abused as a kid, you were more likely to abuse your kid, but still, you got to wonder. How much of you will echo into the future and how much of you won't? FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Why? And that could have very easily have been one of us. BARBARA HARRIS: Sounds bizarre, but it's a solution. There was a newspaper called The Daily Express and they have these headlines that come out. Yeah, thats it. You can do this. And when it came time to mate, the males and the females, they would mate in the water. Were told. That's really impressive. Well, I mean, Hitler thought that if you were Jewish, that you had given up the right to be a mother and hed sterilize people as well. BARBARA HARRIS: After I've gotten to know so many of the women. You know? I mean, it's pretty common but like, here's a for instance, my dad from my entire life had this thing where if someone was whistling, he would. His famous example was giraffes. JAD: And very often, one of them will just go crashing into the DNA and it'll stick there like a barnacle or a glob of peanut butter. I already knew that if I ever got a little girl, I was going to name her Destiny. Methyl groups are pretty sticky, they're hard to get off. More of this particular protein. PAT: Who gave Destiny her first checkup told Barbara BARBARA HARRIS: That she was delayed and she was always going to be delayed because of her prenatal neglect. That doesn't matter. BARBARA HARRIS: Since birth. And if you haven't, you can choose to have an IUD, or an implant put in which will last for several years. Yeah. I guess retard. Everybody we talked to seems to think there's something really interesting going on here. No, she was an oops kid. You just haven't evolved for this and there's no way you can, at least not quickly. This is real physical-chemical interaction between what's going on in the environment and what's going on with the DNA. Whole lifetime of stretching. JAD: Not only that. Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. SAM KEAN: It was this struggle for a few years. That you can, somehow, by just being nice to them, reading them stories, or whatever, that you can somehow break them free of all that. I agree with Lynn, that this program does perpetuate a stereotype. He was born in 1880 in Vienna, Jewish family. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I'm going to go out into the streets and offer addicted women money to use birth control. I mean, they didn't have porridge. I'm Carl Zimmer's daughter. Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. Its so good that it makes you not want to trash the house, you know what I mean? JAD: So heres the backstory. We'll just be honest. But I'm going to give them a basin of water. Yeah. PAT: Last I heard she was living on the streets in LA. [foreign language]. DESTINY HARRIS: Yes. Wow. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations.Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. ], This could mean sterilization, it could mean getting an IUD.]. So this whole debate, two totally different ways of seeing life. Who gave Destiny her first checkup told Barbara That she was delayed and she was always going to be delayed because of her prenatal neglect. ROBERT: And youre saying that part of the DNA is covered up? JAD: How do those cycles perpetuate? Yes. JAD: You got your good parents and your bad parents. If you were a great rat mommy, what would you be doing with your rat baby? Then, Carl told us about this research that showed JAD: Well, he couldn't quite remember the details. I mean, he hates water. I don't like to upset people. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics? SAM KEAN: He was really one of the first grand theorists in biology. What's he talking about? Birth mother's name was actually the same as me, so, Barbara. SAM KEAN: And at a time when you're not making the best decisions anyway. ROBERT: I think that makes a lot of sense. You just have to weigh it, is it worth it? JAD: [laughs] Youre just just judo, that's all this is. DESTINY HARRIS: I do mean that. Destiny has, what, three brothers and sisters that also were raised with her? JAD: [expletive] That was awesome. Now, according to Carl, your genes are still fixed. But what exactly Maybe you can explain this to me, Robert. Don't you see, somehow the mother's tongue is getting all the way down in there and going [mumbles] and messing with the baby's DNA. Famine again, and these changes would just bounce back and forth. Yeah. She got one. I wonder how much you believe in it. PAT: You picked him up right from the hospital? JEAN KEAN: My name is Jean Kean. CARL ZIMMER: But but theres like some hope here because JAD: Okay, all right, this is interesting. It happens. [chuckles], OLOV BYGREN: Yes, yes. Barbara says they've reached out to her many times but they never heard back. Listen Jan 20, 2023 That was the implication, except Kammerer tried to defend himself by saying "Do you think I'm a Dummkopf, or an idiot, because that's what I would have to be if I left a forgery with ink standing around openly in the laboratory where so many of my enemies would have entry?". On the one hand, she says, immediately, cheques started arriving. I said, "No, no, that's okay." It's a small forest area, very beautiful. He stuffed himself silly; 9, 10, 11 years old, so he's a happy grandpa, you the grandson, you then would have. And thats wrong [laughs].Thats not how it works. "I want to thank you for your support and kindness as always." And if you were eating a whole lot between 9 and 12, one-quarter. JAD: What happens, it'll get stuck to one little part of the DNA and now that little bit of DNA FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Is very difficult to get at. PAT: She actually emailed me afterwards and adjusted that number down a couple hundred. ROBERT: Just for those years. ROBERT: Well, so here's the thing. There were four girls and Barbara and Destiny told me that a few years ago they found three of them and they all either were in college or had finished college. Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. They could eat twice, three times as much. He actually named his daughter Lacerta, which is a genus of lizard. What exactly happens between 9 to 12 that makes this big difference? And The other day someone was whistling and I was like, "Stop it", and it just hit me, I was like, "Oh God, I was him", it's never appeared until now. JAD: Yeah, like you can help them overcome you. And I think that no, I didn't plan on it but I wouldn't take her back for anything because she made me better. JAD: Everybody we talked to seems to think there's something really interesting going on here. Its something I still think about all the time. ROBERT: Meaning that they had less incidence of heart disease? Move on to the next cage, yes, no? PAT: And all over the political spectrum, from Hollywood lefties to social conservatives. LULU: Yeah, thats it. But it failed. OLOV BYGREN: Hi, Olov Bygren. Please welcome Barbara.]. PAT: And she says oftentimes the women who want help have a really hard time finding it. CARL ZIMMER: He was revealing it with experiments. [2] Like, "How did this happen? FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: He had no idea about DNA. All the babies I had seen and all the people that have called me to tell me about their babies that were damaged. Females seem to hate laying eggs in the water, but is that the end of the story? ROBERT: Remind me this. These were kids that didn't end up with Barbara? Just don't have any more children because, at that point, I didn't really know any of them. And at first, it didn't go so well because, you know, if you're a land toad and you're trying to have sex in the water, it's kind of hard. And you have to bear in mind that at this point, it only had one hand left. SAM KEAN: This is what's called the slow growth period. JAD: Or very many of them right at all, but, you know, his basic idea seems to be true. Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. Where we sought, they will find. Thats like, I mean, that seems like a thing that would be frightening. BARBARA HARRIS: I mean, I'm married to a Black man. You must have internet access to do this). And the incredible thing is, those marks stick around. As a parent, you are a tiny blip in a very, very, long story. They like to hang out in the water and the females like to lay eggs in the water. You're finishing college, right? But that you supposedly can't get to. Is that what you're saying? Live shows were first offered in 2008. I'm the founder and director of Project Prevention. You know what they're going to go do with that money. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: At once and we're watching 40 litters at a time. I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. Let me say this again. CARL ZIMMER: The right hand had been cut off for microscopic slides. Test the outer edges of what you think you know. Inheritance from Radiolab on Podchaser, aired Friday, 1st April 2022. PAT: In this magazine article, Barbara even said, quote, "We don't allow dogs to breed. OLOV BYGREN: It was very interesting discovery. He's the guy who told us about Olov's work. PAT: And that number, by the way, has grown a lot. But at that point just two of the six boys were living at home, Brian and Rodney. BARBARA HARRIS: A couple of days later, I had already bonded with her so much, it was as if I gave birth to her. Never mind, you're stuck with small boobies." You are not God. It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. JAD: I find myself thinking like, Okay, I know these kids have their genes half from me, half from my wife. And so, her name is Kalia. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. [laughs] "This may hurt you my son, but I'm doing it for my grandchildren.". And since Kammerer kept the heat up, toads basically had to stay there, in this watery place that they had not evolved for. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: [laughs[ Exactly. PAT: A year later, she gets another call. He actually coined the word biology, too. His example with humans was a blacksmith. So moms licking activates serotonin, and it's released onto brain cells in the hippocampus. I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. The little baby that we keep hearing in the background of everything. Thyroid hormones then get into the brain and they turn on certain neural chemical signals. But she says, you can tell right away, just by looking, that some rat moms don't lick their kids a lot. ROBERT: I think what's weird here is that is that we started trying to make a difference in our children and now we're surprise attacked by our grandparents. But according to Kammerer, shortly after these toads got into the water, they did begin to evolve fast. 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